Curse

Peewee · Dec 02, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53

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Originally Posted by S H I N O B I

Are you talking about 34th Soke Masaki Hatsumi??? The source (Bujinkan Dojo) where I found the info on the 9 Bujinkan Ryu was actually founded by a student of his by the name of Stephen Hayes. The ninjutsu that they teach nowadays is more like you said... a defensive, spiritual art more inclined to Ninpo than any other sub branch jutsu from the 9 Ryu... But wepeons training and Taijutsu is still taught I believe.

actually my sources on the last master practising came form a BBC3 program on martial arts, were the presenter had to defend himself from this master, who was wielding a katana. any UK residents or saw this 2?

i myself practise JuJitsu, or JiuJitsu, as it is sometimes spelt, which is similar to other forms of jitsu. again that is primarily a defensive art, focusing more on an armed combat, rather than armed. this said i am tought how to defend myslef against a katana, and learning to use a katana is part of the course (as is the bo). as yes tho i have not been trained in using ninja stars other ninja type weapons.

back to ninjitsu tho, and other assasin related arts. like i said b4, 'sources' can be dodgy, and i would question the truth of what i said. i merely quoted what i thought, which is that there is only one last master teaching ninjitsu. i forget his name. that said i expect there are about 1000 iterations of ninjitsu, some calling themsleves ninjitsu. it is hard to say. In my opinion i think that the art of ninjitsu is still taught today, but only for the sake of teaching it. as a martial art it has little relavence today, though i would still like to learn it

S H I N O B I · Dec 02, 2005, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Peewee

actually my sources on the last master practising came form a BBC3 program on martial arts, were the presenter had to defend himself from this master, who was wielding a katana. any UK residents or saw this 2?

i myself practise JuJitsu, or JiuJitsu, as it is sometimes spelt, which is similar to other forms of jitsu. again that is primarily a defensive art, focusing more on an armed combat, rather than armed. this said i am tought how to defend myslef against a katana, and learning to use a katana is part of the course (as is the bo). as yes tho i have not been trained in using ninja stars other ninja type weapons.

back to ninjitsu tho, and other assasin related arts. like i said b4, 'sources' can be dodgy, and i would question the truth of what i said. i merely quoted what i thought, which is that there is only one last master teaching ninjitsu. i forget his name. that said i expect there are about 1000 iterations of ninjitsu, some calling themsleves ninjitsu. it is hard to say. In my opinion i think that the art of ninjitsu is still taught today, but only for the sake of teaching it. as a martial art it has little relavence today, though i would still like to learn it

Isn't Jujitsu a grappling style martial art? Similar to what is used in UFC (Brazilian Jujitsu)? In any case, was the presenter on the TV show you saw about ninja a white dude with a beard? and the master being a small japanese dude? There are alot of practitioners/teachers of "ninjutsu" and I would believe most of them are not authentic; using a mixture of different styles of martial arts and passing it off as "ninjutsu". Even the authenticity of Dr. Maasaki Hatsumi is questioned despite his lineage (I believe he has the scrolls to prove his link with some ninja clan). If you search enough, you should find quite alot of information on this person...

Mesmerized · Dec 02, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

I've trained in some Jiu Jitsu and whatnot before also, but one of my favorites would be Aikido. I wouldn't mind seeing some defensive Aikido type skills

Xue Yi Liang · Dec 02, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by Mesmerized

I've trained in some Jiu Jitsu and whatnot before also, but one of my favorites would be Aikido. I wouldn't mind seeing some defensive Aikido type skills

I agree Aikido would look terrific ... but aren't we starting to stray just a bit from the concept of Assassin?

S H I N O B I · Dec 02, 2005, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

I agree Aikido would look terrific ... but aren't we starting to stray just a bit from the concept of Assassin?

Aikido and Tai Chi would look great as attack style animations for Monks...

Assassins would benefit from those 9 Ryu of Ninjutsu...

Guardian of the Light · Dec 03, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Can we plz get back on topic

Roupe · Dec 03, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Here is a skill idea

Lure,
Places a beacon that will be shown on map as a friendlyunit (like the spirits.. for instance, but the lure is moving slightly) and will lure enemy ai toward it(as if it was a intresting target). last x min

Mesmerized · Dec 03, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Here's one.. possibly placed in a Shadow type of attribute

Veil of Shadows
10e, 2s, 30r
For x seconds, all foes in range have 50% longer lasting hexes.

Xue Yi Liang · Dec 03, 2005, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by S H I N O B I

Aikido and Tai Chi would look great as attack style animations for Monks...

It would be elegant to see Wing-Chun or Chin-Na done well in a game.

Guardian of the Light · Dec 04, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by Roupe

Here is a skill idea

Lure,
Places a beacon that will be shown on map as a friendlyunit (like the spirits.. for instance, but the lure is moving slightly) and will lure enemy ai toward it(as if it was a intresting target). last x min

Mybe make look like a monk ^_^

Dumb Warrior: "O no I'm dieing those stupid monk can't heal me"

Monks couldn't keep up and are 5000 feet away.

Dumb Warrior" "O theres a monk I'll run to it"

Fake monk has traps around it.

Dumb Warrior "Monk Monk AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FLAME TRAP AND BARBED TRAP AND ALL THE OTHERS AAAAAAAAA"

Dumb Warrior Dies

Dumb Warrior: "RES ME RES ME RES ME RES ME RES ME RES ME"

artemis inferno · Dec 04, 2005, 03:57 AM // 03:57

im thinking of charge skills like the asassins in diablo II

Retribution X · Dec 04, 2005, 01:20 PM // 13:20

maybe some martial arts here, Katana's, Staves.

I kinda like this set.

Agility (primary only): for each level of this, you gain a 3% increase in attack speed 3% increase in movment speed, and 1% chance to dodge attacks

Martal Arts: Each point in this increases the effectivness of melee attacks using the body.

Katana Mastery: improves the damage dealt by katana's

staff mastery: improves the damage dealt by staff's

Sai mastery (the sai is a sword breaker): Improves the damage dealt by Sai's

Claw mastery: improves the damage dealt by Claws

Some ideas for the skills

Shield
Grab target foe and use as a shield for x seconds.
Suffer Y dmg when shield ends
Attribute: Agility

Grab Weapon
Grab Target foe's next melee attack and hold weapon for X seconds
Suffer Y dmg when Grab Weapon ends.
Attribute: Sai Mastery

TwilightOblivion · Dec 04, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I dont think that ther should be individual weapon masteries, just the one, dual wielding that would incompas any weapons they use.

Retribution X · Dec 04, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

but then there would be only singular skills. i've been going in that circle for hours...

I DO think an agility idea would be kinda cool...

Red Sonya · Dec 04, 2005, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I foresee a lot of Warrior/Assassins on the rise DUEL WIELDING heh, major damage output, bye bye rangers. hehe

Guardian of the Light · Dec 05, 2005, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

I foresee a lot of Warrior/Assassins on the rise DUEL WIELDING heh, major damage output, bye bye rangers. hehe

and then some Me/N casts spiteful spirt and empathy on the warriors and watch them kill themselves ^_^

TwilightOblivion · Dec 05, 2005, 03:48 AM // 03:48

lol and then some new build arises to counter that, and everyone counters everyone untill a new FotM comes into play and kills everyone untill that gets countered and so on and so forth untill the end of time. >_<

Prince Zyphr · Dec 05, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

maybe some martial arts here, Katana's, Staves.

I kinda like this set.

Agility (primary only): for each level of this, you gain a 3% increase in attack speed 3% increase in movment speed, and 1% chance to dodge attacks

Martal Arts: Each point in this increases the effectivness of melee attacks using the body.

Katana Mastery: improves the damage dealt by katana's

staff mastery: improves the damage dealt by staff's

Sai mastery (the sai is a sword breaker): Improves the damage dealt by Sai's

Claw mastery: improves the damage dealt by Claws

Some ideas for the skills

Shield
Grab target foe and use as a shield for x seconds.
Suffer Y dmg when shield ends
Attribute: Agility

Grab Weapon
Grab Target foe's next melee attack and hold weapon for X seconds
Suffer Y dmg when Grab Weapon ends.
Attribute: Sai Mastery

interesting ideas, although i dont really like the multiple weapon sets. the agility idea though is along the lines of what i was thinking, but u made it sound better than my head did

. i think they should be able to dual wield and possibly use like throwing stars or something i dunno

Guardian of the Light · Dec 05, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retribution X

maybe some martial arts here, Katana's, Staves.

I kinda like this set.

Agility (primary only): for each level of this, you gain a 3% increase in attack speed 3% increase in movment speed, and 1% chance to dodge attacks

Martal Arts: Each point in this increases the effectivness of melee attacks using the body.

Katana Mastery: improves the damage dealt by katana's

staff mastery: improves the damage dealt by staff's

Sai mastery (the sai is a sword breaker): Improves the damage dealt by Sai's

Claw mastery: improves the damage dealt by Claws

Some ideas for the skills

Shield
Grab target foe and use as a shield for x seconds.
Suffer Y dmg when shield ends
Attribute: Agility

Grab Weapon
Grab Target foe's next melee attack and hold weapon for X seconds
Suffer Y dmg when Grab Weapon ends.
Attribute: Sai Mastery

The shield and the Grab weapon ideas are interesting. Any other ideas for skills I'm dry of Ideas

Retribution X · Dec 06, 2005, 12:02 AM // 00:02

the primary i put in there would be a nice one for a primary, 3% faster movement, and a 1% chance to dodge attacks, at 16, he'd dodge about 1 in 8, and move 45% faster